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Ramit’s Big Wins Hype

June 14, 2012 By Shane Ede 8 Comments

There are many people around the country that seem to think that Ramit Sethi is the worlds answer to their financial problems.  If you aren’t familiar with Ramit and his platform, it’s a platform that is based off of a no-nonsense mantra.  Instead of pushing people to count their lattes and create budgets, he pushes them to find ways to make more money.  He does that through several classes, groups, and even a book.  In a way, he’s the polar opposite of Dave Ramsey.  Full of ego, and unabashed vigor for his product, he’s unafraid to let someone know when he has no use for them, or to tell them to get lost because they aren’t the readers he wants. There’s nothing wrong with that, really.  He knows who he’s most likely to help, and knows that he’s unlikely to offend any of them with his ranting.

heart latte © by thepinkpeppercorn

Earlier this week, he posted his Big Wins Manifesto.  I’ll warn you now, it’s a manifesto, which apparently means that it needs to be fairly long.  Like most of what Ramit writes, this manifesto grates at me.  First, he starts off by comparing two fellows who are trying to get themselves a better financial life.  The first, “John”, is his example of someone trying to improve his financial life by way of budgets, latte reductions, and penny pinching.

John, 28, earns $62,000/year as a project manager. He used to have $8,200 in credit card debt from overspending, but he’s been slowly paying it down over the last two years and now it’s at $6,400. How? He tried all the typical personal-finance advice: He set up a budget, he tried to cut back on his daily lattes, and he made sure to make a list of goals he wanted to achieve. Yet last week, he took an honest look at his life and realized he’s still treading water. Despite paying off part of his debt, he still has years ahead of being in debt — plus no real savings, no investment, and something always comes up, causing him to yo-yo back and forth on his goals.

Are you kidding me?  The dude makes $62,000 a year and only managed to reduce his credit debt by $1800 in 2 years?!?  That’s barely the minimum payment.  If that’s the best you can do on $62,000 a year, you aren’t even trying.  And, Ramit?  That’s one of the worst examples you’ve ever used.  I understand you’re using some psychological sales pitch or whatever, but at least make it realistic.  Seriously?  You’re trying to tell us that the dude used a budget, cut his lattes, set goals, and he only managed to reduce his debt by $75 a month?  That’s got to be the most self-destructive example you could come up with.

Then, his counter example.

Chris, 32, earns approximately $120,000. Four years ago, Chris was making about $60,000/year but he was barely getting by — he had $50,000 of student-loan debt and, most days, would eat the free snack bars at his office instead of buying lunch. Yet within 4 years, Chris paid off $50,000 of debt, amassed a savings account of tens of thousands of dollars, and more than doubled his salary. To do this, he set up automated systems to pay off his debt. He turned his skills into a side income to earn over $1,000/month on the side. He knew he was slightly socially awkward, so he spent time joining courses to improve his social skills and ended up negotiating multiple salary increases — including over a $50,000 raise two months ago.

Chris is the MAN!  Can you believe he paid off all of that debt, and increased his income by that much!?!  OMG!  It gets better though.  As you can guess, Ramit would have you believe that Chris did all of that while doing actions that he prescribes in his book, or any of his programs.  The funny thing, in both examples, is that Ramit never once talks about anything other than the people’s financial situation.  Here’s John, his financial situation, and how terrible he did at setting a budget and sticking to his new spending habits.  Here’s Chris, his financial situation, and how AWESOME he did when he followed Ramit’s teachings!  But, when you really get down to it, Chris worked his butt off, both in his full-time job, but also in a side job (the $1000/month on the side), and then spent time taking courses to improve his social skills.  How ambitious.  Parts of me wonder how much free time he found himself with during that time.  Or how much he finds himself with now that he’s successfully negotiated multiple salary increases.  Can anyone give me an example of any place that would give you a $50,000 a year raise where your responsibilities at work wouldn’t increase at least on the same scale?  I’ve got news for you.  Nobody is going to pay you twice as much to do the same amount of work.  They’ll just fire you and hire John instead.  But, hey, if you’re only objective is to make a ton of money so you can say you have a ton of money, then by all means, follow Chris in his journey.

But, the manifesto isn’t about the life quality.  It’s about “BIG WINS”!  It’s about making changes that produce results, now!  By far, the best part is towards the end.

Next time you hear the same old tired advice of keeping a budget, or cutting back on $2 lattes, ask yourself: Has that really worked for the millions of people who’ve tried it? Are they really not “trying hard enough”? Or is there perhaps a systemic problem urging people to waste their limited cognition on near-meaningless tasks with little reward…and should we instead focus them on high-leverage areas that will result in massive payoffs?

Define reward, Ramit.  Also, while I’m sure you can find plenty of people for whom a budget and cutting back on lattes hasn’t worked, you can also find plenty that it has worked for.  Many of whom are the experts that you so easily scoff at for suggesting others do the same.

Now, I’ll be plain, I’m not Ramit’s target audience.  I’m in my early 30’s, with a family, a house, and a dog.  I choose those things over the freedom to be as mobile as I would have to be to take advantage of most any of the methods that Ramit professes.  I choose to have quality time with my family over working the hours it would take to negotiate anything resembling a significant raise.  I don’t let money have that kind of control over me.  If it has that kind of control over you, I suggest you think twice about that.  Money has plenty of use, but not at the expense of the quality of life that I desire.  Further, Ramit likes to paint the picture in black and white.  He rails against budgets, cutting back on lattes, and basically any of the advice that doesn’t fit into his “Big Wins” philosophy.  Just like the rest of the world, the world of personal finance isn’t black and white.  What works for you, might not work for me, and what works for me, might not work for you.  And, what works for Ramit doesn’t work for me.

Here’s the bottom line, folks.  A budget, cutting back on lattes, and pinching pennies can, and does, work.  It isn’t instant.  It takes hard work and dedication.  The same hard work, and dedication that anything that Ramit teaches does.  In fact, I’d say a combination of the two is likely a good solution.  But, to write off one for the other is very much like saying that a bicycle won’t get you the same place as a motorcycle.  They both go the same places, it’s just that the method, effort, and reward are slightly different.

Filed Under: budget, Debt Reduction, Financial Truths, Frugality, General Finance, Saving Tagged With: big wins, ramit, ramit big wins, ramit sethi, ramit sethi big wins

Have You Become Complacent with Your Gazelle Intensity?

May 23, 2012 By MelissaB 16 Comments

If you have tens of thousands of dollars to pay off, gazelle intensity can be exhausting. You can easily begin to feel sorry for yourself and lament all of the things you have to give up and sacrifice when paying down debt.

We started our journey to be debt free on October 20, 2011. Our debt was a mind-numbing $57,966.01. In the 7 months since then, we have paid down almost $10,000. (We are sitting right around $48,000 now.) I am proud of our progress, but we have reached the point where the journey is getting long and difficult. Gazelle intensity has lost its luster.

Mhorr Gazelle (Nanger dama mhorr) © by 5of7

While we have no intentions of adding any new debt, we sometimes want to slow down and enjoy life. I don’t want to work so hard all the time; I want to spend money on treats sometimes.

And just like that it happened. The lifestyle creep began. We had been not been spending any money on eating out, and in May we spent nearly $200. Yes, I don’t think that seems like gazelle intensity either.

My kick in the pants came when I read on Yahoo! that Joe Mihalic recently paid down $90,000 in student loan debts in 7 months. Seven months! That is nearly $13,000 a month. Intrigued, I read more about his story on The Huffington Post.

After he did the obvious measures of selling off his extra vehicle, his motorcycle and cashing in investments and savings, he went renegade and cashed in his $8,000 retirement. (We certainly have enough in our retirement to erase our debt, but I am not as young as Joe, and I wouldn’t be willing to pay the penalties. Most financial experts do NOT recommend wiping out your retirement to pay down debts.)

Then he made the hard sacrifices including:

  • Not having dinner dates the entire time he was paying down his debt (opting instead to take dates out for coffee and bagels)
  • Foregoing travel at Christmas to see his parents
  • Missing two friends’ weddings
  • Finding two roommates on Craigslist
  • Starting a side business as a landscaper
  • Not buying any new clothes
  • Shunning consumerism in general

He was full force gazelle intense, and it paid off. He, as Dave Ramsey says, “lived like no one else so later he could live like no one else.”

While we are generally frugal, we slip up and spend too much money on groceries and other expenses (such as our unnecessary trips out to restaurants this month). There is still some fat in the budget, and that fat can be cut and funneled toward our debt repayment. We still have room to improve.

Sometimes when you are tired and are immersed in your debt repayment, getting out of debt can feel hopeless. You can feel like the debt will never go away, and you can start to doubt yourself and the sacrifices you are making. In times of doubt, read stories like Mihalic’s to see that gazelle intensity does work. He made it through to the other side. You can, too.

Filed Under: Debt Reduction, Frugality, Saving, ShareMe Tagged With: debt, debt repayment, gazelle, gazelle intensity

Are You Rationalizing Your Way Into Debt?

May 16, 2012 By Shane Ede 18 Comments

Staying out of debt is difficult.  Terribly difficult.  It isn’t made any easier if you rationalize yourself into debt, either.  Many of us spend a good deal of our time and energy trying to get out of debt, and stay out of debt.  We do that through so many devices, and each have our own system that helps us along the way.  Budgeting is obviously a big tool that many of us use to make sure that we have enough money to pay the bills, and ourselves at the end of the month.  We figure out how many months it will take to pay off this debt, or that debt, and then budget out that amount over that many months.

Sale © by markhillary

Many years ago, I spent a few years working as a salesperson at a retail store where bigger ticket items were popular.  Computers, televisions, and cell phones were big sellers, and good for commissions.  As part of our training for our jobs, we were trained on the many ways to sell a customer on the item they were looking at, and even how to convince the customer that they needed the upgraded item.  One of those sales tactics was to help them rationalize the purchase.  And, chief among the ways to do that was to take the price of the item, break it up over a set amount of months (24, 36, 48, 60) and tell them how much they’d be spending “a month” for the item.  Suddenly, that $2000 computer (it was that long ago) becomes a $25 a month purchase.  Psychologically, people are more likely to purchase something if it’s under $100.  Even if that “under $100” is in the form of a monthly payment for several years.

Salespeople are the only ones we have to watch out for when it comes to this tactic in particular.  Pay special attention the next time you’re looking at purchasing something.  See how many times over the next month, you attempt to rationalize a purchase based on what it will cost per month on credit over what the total price will be.  I think you’ll be surprised just how often you use that same sales tactic on yourself.

Don’t rationalize your way into debt.  Fight back, and stick to your guns.  That purchase has a total price.  And if you’re buying it on credit, that price will be far larger than if you had purchased it with cash.  More importantly, don’t saddle yourself with more debt just because the “monthly” price is more palatable.

Filed Under: budget, Consumerism, credit cards, General Finance, Saving, ShareMe Tagged With: debt, Debt Reduction, sales, sales tactics, Saving

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