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Lending Club Returns 2014 EOY Update

January 12, 2015 By Shane 20 Comments

If you’ve been reading here for very long, you’ll know that I’ve been posting and discussing my Lending Club returns since the end of 2011. For the first year or so, I updated with quarterly updates. I didn’t do that in 2014. Part of the reason for that was that it was a busy year for me, and the time to put together a full post on that every quarter just wasn’t always there. The rest of the reason was that it was beginning to feel redundant to me, so I slowed them down a bit. Now, I’ll be doing the updates on a yearly basis (twice a year at most) to hopefully avoid that feeling of repeating myself in each one. On to the Lending Club Returns 2014 update.

If you don’t know what Lending Club is, the simple answer is that it’s a peer-to-peer lending network where people like you and me can both borrow and lend to people like you and me. Want a little better explanation? Head over to my Lending Club page to read more.

Lending Club Adjusted NAR

When we left 2013 behind, my NAR on my Lending Club account was sitting at 13.16%. A full year of lending has passed, and, as I’ll explain in just a bit, there’s been some changes to the account. At the end of 2014, my NAR is now showing at 9.61%. Down from 2013’s EOY number, but still a very healthy return on my investment. For comparison’s sake, the S&P 500 returned about 11% for 2014. So, ultimately, I could be getting more of a return on my money in an S&P 500 index fund. The biggest difference for me is that each of the loans I’ve invested in on Lending Club has a set rate of return. The only thing that changes that rate of return is a default. I’ll talk about defaults in a minute, but the rate of default is pretty low. Try and get a set rate of return on an index fund. Your brokerage will laugh you out of the office.

Lending Club Defaults and Late Notes

As of the time of this writing, there are no late notes listed on my account. In 2014, three notes went into a default status. At the end of 2013, only one had gone into default. It’s a little bit higher rate, obviously, than it had been previously. But, as my portfolio on Lending Club has grown, the odds of a default here and there also has grown. The full picture looks pretty good still. Since I began investing in Lending Club, I’ve invested in 118 loans. Only 4 of those have gone into default. That’s a default rate of about 3.4%. Flip that around, and if the trend holds, 96.6% of the loans I invest in will not default. 96.6% is a pretty good success rate if I do say so myself.

The 4 loans that have gone into default meant a total of $52.17 in written off principle. Of that $52.17 that was written off, $10.74 has been recovered through collections for a total loss of principle of $41.43. I’ll go into further detail in the next section, but the interest I make on the non-default loans more than makes up for that lost principle.

Lending Club Income

The biggest reason that I invest in Lending Club is for the higher rates of return and the income that it provides to continue building my portfolio. I bank the interest payments and then reinvest them into new loans when I’ve passed $25 in available funds. Those interest payments, after fees, totaled $115.69 for 2014. That’s up from $109.88 in 2013. Less of an increase than I expected, honestly, but still $115.69 that I didn’t have before. And it still leaves me with about $75 in income on the account after you account for the lost principle that was written off. And that’s $75 that I’ve reinvested into principle and am now earning interest on. Given my current rate of return, I can expect that to increase by about $12 next year.

I invest in Lending Club for the higher rates of return and the income.

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Another of the metrics that I like to look at is the average amount of interest earned each month. I reached point where the payments (principle+interest) each month exceeded $25, and I could make reinvestments each month, but the next benchmark I’d like to reach is to make $25 in interest each month to reinvest. That’s one new loan to invest in each month. The average for 2014 was $9.64, so I still have a way to go, but it’s increasing year over year. It was $9.16 in 2013, $5.94 in 2012, and $1.91 in 2011.

I think the thing that I like the most about Lending Club is the income potential and the growth I’ve managed with my portfolio. I haven’t deposited any new money into the account since November of 2012. Through active investing and reinvesting, my portfolio has increased by almost $200. I think that’s pretty good on deposits of just a hair over $700.

The Future of my Lending Club Portfolio

In the past, I’ve talked about changes I planned on making to my investing strategy in this section. I’m pretty happy with my returns, and with the numbers that I’ve just shown you, and so there won’t be any immediate large changes. If the default rate jumps by a lot, there’s a good chance that I might begin investing a bit more conservatively. But, if it holds steady, I see no real reason to do so. My portfolio is pretty heavily weighted towards the B and C grade loans in any case. And I don’t know that moving to A grade loans would give me the return I’m looking for. So, short term, there won’t be any changes to my investing strategy. I’ll just continue to reinvest the payments and see what kind of growth I get in 2015.

Do you have any questions I can answer about my experience with Lending Club? Other things related to peer-to-peer lending that you want to know? Let me know in the comments below, or through the contact form linked in the bar on the left.

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Lending Club Return Update 2Q13

August 5, 2013 By Shane 5 Comments

Lending Club is a peer-to-peer lending service. People (like you and me) sign up for their site, and list a loan to be funded by investors (like you and me). I like to think of it as replacing the bank in a loan with me. (Except I’m not “too big to fail”.) Of course, with that comes the same risks that the bank assumes when it issues a loan. There’s a risk of late payments, missed payments, and default and it’s associated collection activities. Luckily, Lending Club and Prosper (another p2p lending site) take care of most of the paperwork for the lenders (and borrowers). This post is the second quarter update on my Lending Club account, and the return I’m getting on my money.

If you’d like to catch up a little, here’s links to the last few quarterly updates. (1Q13, 4Q12, 3Q12)

First Lending Club Default

I’ve been mentioning in the last several updates how lucky I’ve been that I haven’t had a loan go into default yet. Well, that streak ended recently. I knew it was only a matter of time before one of the notes defaulted, and one has. Luckily, the loan that defaulted was a small one, and my portfolio has grown enough that the value of the default didn’t really affect the account too much. The value of the defaulted loan is about 1% of my Lending Club portfolio.

There’s also a loan that is in the 31-120 days late category, that has the possibility of going to default, but at this point, the borrower is making attempts to pay the loan. The reason it’s still in the late category at all is because the most recent payment was only a partial payment. This loan is a larger loan than the defaulted one, so I may have to consider taking the loss on it and selling it at a discount to get it off my books.

Diligent Reinvestment

One of the things that I like most about Lending Club, and p2p lending as a whole, is that you get a relatively high churn on your money. It’s not a buy-and-hold scenario, per se. Yes, you invest in a note with the expectation of holding that note until it is fully paid off, but, as the payments come in monthly, that money is available for reinvestment. In my 1Q13 update, I mentioned that I’d been a bit lazy in my reinvestment of those funds. I was slightly better with that in the second quarter, and was able to keep most of the money pretty actively invested.

I knew it was only a matter of time before one of the notes defaulted, and one has.

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Passive Income from Lending Club

Many people (myself included) call p2p investing a form of passive income. While not strictly meeting the criteria in that it does still require some activity on the investors part, it’s pretty close. Maybe we need to start defining passive income in terms of it’s passivity? Something like levels. Each level is achieved by it’s decile of passivity. For instance, I think p2p investing could be somewhere around 90-95% passive. That would make it a Level 9 Passive Income source. With about 15 minutes of work a month, I’ve earned almost $60 in interest payments as of the end of June of 2013. Last year, with the same amount of work, I earned $75.37 in interest payments. If I had significantly more money, that amount would be larger, but I think that the time spent each month to earn it would be a bit larger as well. Still, a pretty close to passive means of making some money.

Lending Club Return Update

We’ve talked about most of the rest of the account, but the title did say that it was a return update, right? Yes. In my 1Q13 update, I mentioned that the rate of return then was being shown as 14.63%. As of 8/3/13, it’s being displayed as 14.08%. The combination of the defaulted loan, and the payoff of a couple of higher interest paying notes is bringing the rate down. I’ve been happy with the return I’ve been getting, but I truly think that a more reasonable expectation of return is somewhere in the 10-13% range. I’ll take the 14%+ returns I’ve been getting though.

Click here to learn more about how I select my Lending Club investments.

Overall, I’ve been really happy with my results at Lending Club. And, with the p2p lending industry as a whole issuing over 200 Million in loans in July, it would appear that there are plenty of other happy users too.

Have you gotten your feet wet in p2p lending? Why or why not?

Lending Club Return Update 1Q13

April 25, 2013 By Shane 13 Comments

If this is the first of my Lending Club return updates that you’ve read, let me catch you up a bit. It all started with a little Lending Club / Sharebuilder experiment. It’s moved on past that, to an ongoing series here at Beating Broke where I share, on a quarterly basis, how the account is doing, the things I’ve done with the account recently, and the things that I might be thinking about trying over the next quarter.

How I invest in Lending Club

Because of where I live (North Dakota), I’m not able to directly invest in fresh loans. I’m forced to use the FolioFN trading platform to buy (and occasionally sell) the notes that I’m investing in. But, based on my returns, I don’t think I’ll be complaining anytime soon. If you’d like to read more about how I select my Lending Club notes, you can read my post on that subject here.

Lazy Lending Club Investing

While I consider investing in peer-to-peer investing to be a nearly passive income source, it isn’t a pure passive income source. What I mean by that is that it does require some active management in order to keep the money invested in loans, and not just sitting fallow in your account. Without meaning to, I put that to the test this last quarter. In February, I don’t even know if I logged into the account. I certainly didn’t buy any new notes. What that means is that for the better part of February, the money that I had coming in just sat in the cash account not doing a darn thing. By the end of February, the cash account was nearly 10% of my Lending Club portfolio. I invested all of that back into notes in March, but it was a lesson in needing to log in and check the account once in a while.

Lending Club Loan Analysis

Analysis might be a bit too strong of a word. At the end of the quarter, I had invested in a total of 62 notes. Of those 62 notes, 19 had been paid off, and there have been no written off loans. There is one that has slipped into the delinquent status column, however, and is showing signs of ending up in the written off column. The balance on principle of the loan is less than 1% of my total portfolio. I might be able to sell it, but it’s far enough delinquent that I’d have to sell it at a significant discount. Honestly, I haven’t decided if I’ll do that or not. I’d rather it just came back around and was paid off, but I’m more of a realist than that. Maybe we’ll be talking about the written off loan effect at the end of next quarter.

Lending Club Return

So this is the part that everyone’s been reading for, right? If you look back at the 4Q12 update, you’ll see that my rate of return (displayed as NAR in the account dashboard) was 14.48%. I screwed up a bit and didn’t record the NAR displayed at the end of March. As of 4/24/2013, it’s being displayed as 14.63. That still includes the one delinquent loan, so it’s likely to go down some if that loan is sold at a significant discount, or if it is written off. The spreadsheet I use to keep track of the numbers shows a a return of 15.86% and 13.26% (adjusted with inflation, which may or may not be necessary).

The cash flow in the account remains pretty good. I had several loans paid off in the last quarter that was reinvested. All told, the portfolio of active (principle remaining) loans grew by 2 over the first quarter. The average amount of money churning back into the account each month is averaging well over $30 a month now allowing me to invest in one new note (at $25/each) each month and then another when the balance grows beyond $25 again. Monthly interest received is teetering around the $10 a month line. I think my next goal might be to get the interest income up to $25 a month. That would be pretty sweet. I’d be investing in a new note each month on just the interest along. If I want to do that anytime soon, however, it means I’ll have to start putting money into the account again. I haven’t put anything into it since November of last year, and I haven’t yet decided when I’ll start putting money into it again, but it will likely be soon.

Embracing Risk, and Increasing Returns

I suppose that somewhere along the way, here, I should mention risk. The notes that I’m investing in all carry a risk of potential default. If they all were to default, I’d lose every penny in my account. The odds of that happening are pretty small. But, the odds of having one or two loans default out of a couple hundred is significantly higher. If you’re going to invest in Lending Club notes, or any investment, you need to know and understand the risks. That’s your warning, and my disclaimer.

Now, take a minute and go look to see what your bank or credit union of choice pays on their savings account. How about their best rate on a CD? Now, even if I were to invest my portfolio into loans with a better credit rating (and, supposedly lesser risk), I could easily be making 6-9% if there weren’t any defaults. It beats the heck out of the rates at my credit union.

One last disclaimer. Please don’t put your liquid (or, emergency) savings into risky investments. You need those readily available, and relatively risk free. Even at a paltry 0.25% in a savings account, it’s in the best place. Every other drop of savings is fair game though. Your money needs to be working for you, not the bank.

If you think Lending Club (or Prosper) is something you want to give a look (maybe you’ll want to try an experiment like I have?) you can sign up at the following links: (Lending Club | Prosper)