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Couples; To Combine Finances or Not?

April 29, 2011 By Shane Ede 12 Comments

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Married couples have been doing it for centuries.  Combining their finances is just something they’ve always done.  Call it tradition if you want.  Call it necessity.  Recently, it’s a tradition that has come under fire as being old and outdated.  After all, the reason that the tradition exists is because it was rather usual for the woman in the marriage to stay home and be a homemaker while the husband went off to work and earned the money.  Since the woman wasn’t contributing to the financial inflow, there was no reason for her to have her own account.  What would she put in it?

But, with a new age, comes new standards.  Now, it’s expected that a woman will enter the workforce (or, at least, the contingent workforce).  And she’ll remain there even after marriage.  Not only will she remain in the workforce, but there is a chance that she’ll bring more to the table financially than her husband.  Suddenly, the decision to combine finances isn’t such an easy one.  In fact, combining finances can lead to more arguments than keeping them separated, unless both parties are on the same page financially.  The way I see it, there are three ways you can handle finances as a couple.

Combined accounts. (What we do.)

We came to the conclusion early on in our marriage that combining finances made the most sense for us.  Neither of us made much more than the other, and we both brought about an equal amount of debt to the marriage.  We combined and pay all of our bills and other expenses from one account.  It makes it easier to balance, easier to pay, and avoids having to figure out how much each owes to what bill, or when/how to transfer money from one account to the bill pay account.

Combined account hybrid.

If you want the convenience of combined accounts, but still have a bit of an issue with purchasing things for each other.  Or, just want a “me” account where you can purchase whatever you want, whenever, no questions asked, a combined hybrid set up might make the most sense.  Combine all of your accounts, but open a new account in each of your names.  Those accounts get a set (budgeted) amount deposited into them each month.  Each account is completely hands off to the other partner.  Spend it however you like, as long as the cash is in the account to cover what you spend.

Completely separate.

You don’t like the idea of combined accounts at all.  They should be separate.  Each of you keeps your own account and you either agree on who is paying which bill, or you create a third account that each of you deposits your share of the bills into and pay all bills from that account.

Which is right for you? I can’t say which is right, or which is wrong for you.  It’s something that you need to sit down and discuss with your spouse/partner and decide on.  I think that combined finances are easier, but with automated deposits and bill pay, the separate accounts could be made pretty easy as well.  And, just because you settle on one way, doesn’t mean you can’t change it down the road.  What I will say is that people are sometimes quick to judge based on the decision that you make.  Are you too trusting by combining?  Not trusting enough by leaving things separate?  Perhaps your relationship is doomed if you don’t combine?

The truth of it is this: a majority of divorces have some root in money issues.  Forcing yourselves into a money model that you don’t like won’t help with that statistic.  Be open with each other about money.  Be willing to discuss your finances, both separately and combined, and get yourselves on a path to a solid financial future.  If you do that, it won’t matter which option you choose, it’ll be the right one.

photo credit: Will Folsom

Shane Ede

Shane Ede is a business teacher and personal finance blogger.  He holds dual Bachelors degrees in education and computer sciences, as well as a Masters Degree in educational technology.  Shane is passionate about personal finance, literacy and helping others master their money.  When he isn’t enjoying live music, Shane likes spending time with family, barbeque and meteorology.

www.beatingbroke.com

Filed Under: General Finance, Home, Married Money, ShareMe Tagged With: budget, budgeting, combined finances, couple money, marriage, married money, separate finances

You’re Doing it Wrong! Rethinking Your Processes

October 7, 2010 By Shane Ede Leave a Comment

Habit.  It’s a dirty little 5 letter word.  I read somewhere that it only takes 6 times of doing something before it becomes a habit.  Habit is a close relative to addiction, although somewhat easier to change.

If you’re like me, you’re a creature of habit.  You like doing things the way you’ve been doing them and don’t feel very compelled to change them.  That’s the way I was before I began taking control of my finances.  I was a habitual spender of my paycheck.  There was no saving involved.  When I started this personal finance journey, I had to break that habit and begin a new one.  One that involved paying off my debt and saving money.  Like any other habit, it took time to really make it into a habit.

Within that greater habit, there are other habits.  The habit of checking balances regularly.  The habit of balancing the bank accounts.  The habit of keeping the budget.

That last one, the habit of keeping the budget, is the one I’d like to focus on here.  In the beginning (anyone else hear that choir?), I used only a copy of Microsoft Money (now defunct).  As I matured in my budgeting, I adapted a spreadsheet based on the budget spreadsheet that Dave Ramsey created for his Financial Peace University.  And that’s where it’s been since.  I have spreadsheets going back several years, in fact.

LedgerRecently, my computer became ill.  I ended up having to back all of my data off the hard drive and rebuild it.  Not a lot of fun, but it’s sometimes nice to start with a fresh drive and get rid of some of the flotsam that it’s accumulated.  Long story short, it took over a month to get it all sorted out and rebuilt.  When I had gotten everything installed and ready, it had been nearly 6 weeks since I had last checked in on my budget.  The process, if you’ll indulge me, is somewhat cumbersome.  First, I would manually enter in transactions from the internet banking application at my credit union.  With the version of Money that I had, I was never able to get it to properly import a file, so manual entry was my only option.  I would then manually enter in any outstanding checks and bill payment items.  Once the info was entered into Money, I would then manually, line by line, transfer the amounts from Money into the appropriate budget categories in my spreadsheet, using a calculator as I went to calculate the totals for each category.  (This was necessary because I didn’t have the individual line items in the spreadsheet, so I merely took the existing total and added whatever the line item was in Money to it.)

So, you can see, 6 weeks of undone budget work was quite a pile of work.  And like any good person with lazy tendencies, I put it off.  Before I knew it, there was almost 3 months worth of budget to do.  That was about the time that I decided that maybe my habit needed a bit of rethinking.  I began looking into new personal finance software that might integrate a little bit better.

What I decided on was You Need A Budget.  I’ll have a review of that coming up in the next week or so.

Telling all of you that was just getting us to this point.  The meat of the idea.  You’re doing it wrong!  Somewhere, something your doing is being done wrong.  Maybe not wrong in the sense that it’s incorrect (none of us make financial mistakes right?), but wrong in the sense that the processes that you are using are costing you;  Time or money, or both.

If there’s one thing I’ve learned through all of this, it is that you must be vigilant.  You’ve got to rethink your processes periodically.  It doesn’t have to be all that often; Some will go overboard and spend so much time rethinking their processes, that they’ll suffer from analysis paralysis.  Instead, set up a schedule where by you set aside an hour or two to go through your processes and try and discover new ways of performing those processes that might save you money or time.

In our case, moving to a newer software that made it easy to import our transactions and had the budget part of it all built in has resulted in saving us a lot of time.  What about you?  What processes do you perform that you’ve never changed?  Take a look at them and see if you can’t find a way to save yourself some time or money!

Image Credit: Ledger by er1danus

Shane Ede

Shane Ede is a business teacher and personal finance blogger.  He holds dual Bachelors degrees in education and computer sciences, as well as a Masters Degree in educational technology.  Shane is passionate about personal finance, literacy and helping others master their money.  When he isn’t enjoying live music, Shane likes spending time with family, barbeque and meteorology.

www.beatingbroke.com

Filed Under: budget, General Finance, Saving, ShareMe Tagged With: budget, budgeting, microsoft money, ms money, Personal Finance, personal finance software, ynab, you need a budget

Ethics and Morality in Personal Finance

April 12, 2010 By Shane Ede 6 Comments

Personal finance isn’t all just about the best ways to save money and live frugally.  There are other things to consider; other rules that should be followed.  Some have absolutely nothing to do with saving money.Many of the posts here at Beating Broke deal with saving money, budgeting, and living frugally.  On many occasions I have drummed on the amount of debt that we all take on and the ways that we can go about budgeting to make that debt go away.  Deep in the root of that is a moral standard.  I believe we have a moral responsibility to not spend more than we earn.  And, because each dollar of debt, holds some risk of default, I believe we also have an ethical responsibility to budget so that we don’t default on our debt.

In the process of paying off our debt and saving money, many of us will be faced with a moral or ethical dilemma.  Perhaps you bought a bunch of things at a department store and the teller didn’t notice that one of the items rang up for less than it was supposed to be.  Or maybe the teller only rang up one item when there were really two.  Many of us have been faced with just such a situation.  And many of us, in our struggle to reduce our spending and debt, probably didn’t say a thing.  I know I have.  And I felt guilty about it.  Morally, and ethically, we have a responsibility to pay the correct price for an item, and to pay for the correct amount of items.  Even though I admit to not doing anything, I do try to keep myself honest.  Ill gotten gains are gains you’re likely to lose.  Call it karma, or whatever you like, you’ll feel the reverberations of your acts.

Perhaps more-so than in paying off debt and saving money, ethical and moral dilemmas can arise after we’ve paid it all off.  Suddenly, we find ourselves with an abundance of spendable money that we can save or do what we want with.  It’s not earmarked for any debt, and we’ve already paid ourselves.  The situation has changed, but we still have a moral and ethical obligation to do what is right.  If you’re investing your money, do you invest in so-called “sin stocks”?  The stocks of cigarette and alcohol and other indiscretions.  Again, I know I have.  I am still a shareholder in the parent companies of both Marlboro and Camel.  I’ve owned others in the past.  Depending on how you feel about those companies, a ethical dilemma could come up.  As a generality, those companies have rather solid stock and usually pay dividends.  If you feel that those companies are responsible for cancer and death, can you ethically allow yourself to support them by becoming a share owner of that company?

As debtors, we all despise the credit card companies who charge double digit interest rates and hide fees around every corner.  Banks too.  As someone who can now invest money rather than paying those credit card companies and banks, deciding how we feel about those rates and fees can be another dilemma.  If you’re one of the lucky ones  whose state has allowed access to the peer-to-peer lending companies, you have the ability to invest in loans that carry rates that are very much the same as what a credit card company or bank would charge.  The table has turned.  If you were against it when you were paying the rates and fees, can you ethically charge them?  Morally, should you?

I think that many of us look too closely at the technical aspects of personal finance.  We study amortizations schedules and debt snowballs.  We talk endlessly about our retirement funds and the ways that we are going to build them up.  And, while it is there as an undercurrent, we sometimes fail to see the moral and ethical currents that run in the background.  And sometimes, we allow our technical expertise and know-how overcome our moral and ethical compasses in order to make our debt snowball roll a bit faster.

If you truly want to win at personal finance, you have to find your moral and ethical limits and remain steadfast in their direction.  We all fail to do that occasionally, but, as the old saying goes, you’ve got to get back up and try again.

Shane Ede

Shane Ede is a business teacher and personal finance blogger.  He holds dual Bachelors degrees in education and computer sciences, as well as a Masters Degree in educational technology.  Shane is passionate about personal finance, literacy and helping others master their money.  When he isn’t enjoying live music, Shane likes spending time with family, barbeque and meteorology.

www.beatingbroke.com

Filed Under: budget, Debt Reduction, Financial Mistakes, Financial Truths, Frugality, Investing, Personal Finance Education, Saving, ShareMe Tagged With: budgeting, debt, debt snowball, ethically, ethics, Frugality, morality, morals, Saving

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